How do you deal with a 3-4yo who refuses to sleep early? (9pm) and sleeps only closer to 11pm? I'm thinking of making my LO exercise until she KO. Heh.

What you can do is make them nap for lesser hours in the afternoon! Bring them for outdoor play/ swim. They will definitely ko early. Frankly, dont think routine works for bigger toddlers. They work only if you start them since baby!